tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post6138782002531700836..comments2024-01-27T20:13:38.669-08:00Comments on I could be wrong....: Danhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15686012908579078418noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-66036453179013514492007-02-18T08:02:00.000-08:002007-02-18T08:02:00.000-08:00Wow--your last reply is such an efficiently compac...Wow--your last reply is such an efficiently compacted stream of offensive garbage that I can't even respond with a few specific points. Instead, I'll have to fisk it line by line.<BR/><BR/><I>No, in fact annexation makes the local population equal citizens of the state, while military occupation is a pure form of oppression.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, Palestinians residing in the Gaza Strip from Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-59710346812640312592007-02-16T11:23:00.000-08:002007-02-16T11:23:00.000-08:00For example: the greatest American hero of all tim...For example: the greatest American hero of all times Sen. McCain still refers to the Vietnamese as "gooks" - that's 30 years after the war in which Senator's country was never attacked or occupied. <BR/><BR/>Now, some people find it normal, others (myself included) find it distasteful, but - hey - no one says that the guy is an anti-Vietnamese bigot. <BR/><BR/>So, why should Mr. Nasrallah be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-91375962269535379832007-02-16T09:37:00.000-08:002007-02-16T09:37:00.000-08:001. No, in fact annexation makes the local populati...1. No, in fact annexation makes the local population equal citizens of the state, while military occupation is a pure form of oppression. Difference between immigration and racist colonization (with ethnically pure towns and roads) is obvious to any reasonable individual; there is no need to discuss this. <BR/><BR/>2. Zionists moved to Palestine to create a homogeneous ethnocentric Jewish Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-49740218836244825852007-02-15T14:00:00.000-08:002007-02-15T14:00:00.000-08:001) There is indeed a big difference between annex...1) There is indeed a big difference between annexation and occupation. Annexation is permanent, and offers no hope of political independence. If the annexing power is a dictatorship, then annexation also offers no hope of political freedom. In contrast, occupation is temporary, and allows for future political developments, including independence. <BR/><BR/>As for "racist colonization", it's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-22312915320600853982007-02-15T10:44:00.000-08:002007-02-15T10:44:00.000-08:00There are a couple of obvious differences between ...There are a couple of obvious differences between Jordanian <I>annexation</I> and Israel <I>occupation</I> and <I>racist colonization</I> of the territories. The difference is so blatantly obvious, that it isn't worth discussing. <BR/><BR/>Despotism is in the eye of the beholder. Again, your opinion of Jordan is predictable and irrelevant; we are not discussing Jordan or Egypt, so you're just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-85874698533659492602007-02-14T20:41:00.000-08:002007-02-14T20:41:00.000-08:001. Our definitions of "atrocities" are quite diff...1. Our definitions of "atrocities" are quite different. The sporadic driving off of some of the local Arab residents from the future state of Israel during the 1948 war was certainly unfair and wrong--but then, so was the far more thorough, more deliberate "ethnic cleansing" of Jews from the future West Bank and East Jerusalem. In contrast, the closing of Israel's borders to returning refugeesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-56796542304868365672007-02-14T03:12:00.000-08:002007-02-14T03:12:00.000-08:00I have absolutely no idea what "atrocities" you're...<I>I have absolutely no idea what "atrocities" you're talking about.</I><BR/><BR/>I did specify some of the atrocities and oppression in my very first comment, but see, this just makes it obvious that you are not being serious and don't really want to discuss this. <BR/><BR/>2. Legal immigrants? You've gotta be kidding. They were "legal immigrants" in the same sense the American colonists were Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-54577020717594092682007-02-13T17:47:00.000-08:002007-02-13T17:47:00.000-08:001. I have absolutely no idea what "atrocities" yo...1. I have absolutely no idea what "atrocities" you're talking about. You'll have to be specific if you want me to "not deny" them.<BR/><BR/>2. Where I come from, engaging in "ethnic clashes", as you so delicately put it, with legal immigrants or their descendants because you resent the nearby presence of people of their ethnicity is known as "racism". It happens all over the world, wherever Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-2065981718823609122007-02-12T11:29:00.000-08:002007-02-12T11:29:00.000-08:00Here we go again...1) "Oppressees" are certainly ...Here we go again...<BR/><BR/>1) "Oppressees" are certainly entitled to decide what kind of "oppression" they <I>feel</I> themselves to be under. But nobody else is obligated to take their complaints at face value. For example, I find your comments on this blog to be brutally oppressing me, but others are free to evaluate my claim as they see fit. Likewise with any Palestinian claims.<BR/><BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3270379.post-29037675384838369062007-02-12T07:57:00.000-08:002007-02-12T07:57:00.000-08:00This is rather pointless, but I'll respond anyway....This is rather pointless, but I'll respond anyway...<BR/><BR/>1) I put "Israeli oppression" in quotation marks because "oppression" is a completely subjective term. As far as I know, Israeli rule over the West Bank and Gaza was far milder than the Jordanian and Egyptian rule that preceded it. However, since many of the local inhabitants have long hated Jews, they may well have considered (onlyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com